Do women lack the mental strength to succeed at STEM? There seems to be few women at STEM and more women leave STEM after a time of working at it. How can it be just sexism if women aren't banned from entering?
07.06.2025 01:47

But UNDER REPRESENTATION in math, physics, and engineering.
However, pre medical programs for veterinary school, dentistry, medicine, and biomedical are the same, and they are very difficult and very competitive, because the material typically comes down too someone giving PowerPoints from a class pack and then giving a pre-made test, and having no idea whether or not what's being presented is correct because it's become far too complicated for any one specialist to understand all the undergraduate courses they're supposed to teach. So, it's about self-teaching and beating a test bank of high-level material that was poorly developed at a third rate school by someone hired by Pearson for pocket money.
So it's going to take effort and a certain quotient of underlying characteristics, but the work will have a prove-able, right answer, and everything presented is solvable, with limited, specific material to draw from for advanced topics.
I have taken a few cross listed undergraduate courses as an established professional adult with a graduate degree and background in industry. Watching these young people, majority women, in pre-med get abused by an arbitrary and subjective system, it's more like a gulag than college.
Axiom-based sciences like math and physics are wonderful. You don't have to fight for a point on an exam because a recent paper strongly suggests a given virus ISN'T endogenous and the professor hasn't kept up with their literature, so to get the point back you have to spend and hour finding and collating literature …for one point. And there are 10 points on the exam that you can argue are wrong. Do you have time for this part time job?
Why is it male dominated? As my partner summarizes the situation, in a falsetto high school girl voice, “math makes my boobs hurt.” There are socially held narratives about math, and other abstract axiom based sciences, that exclude women, and women are punished for participating by those in power, and prevented from gaining entry in the first place by gatekeeping asshats.
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But us chicks have not dominated physics. And I can tell you why, they treat women like trash. I have had a couple extremely bizarre interactions in physically isolated applied physics labs, and I'm like “Oh, if this is what the campus tour meet and greet feels like, I'd run, screaming.”
Why is this a straw man argument? Because women are highly participatory in STEM. What has happened is that women are extremely overrepresented in certain fields and almost non-existent in others. Some of this is economic and some of this is because some fields are safer landing places for women than others.
In order to make women look bad, a distorted non-reality is presented, that is easy to take down, thus the argument maker and their followers can bond and gain strength through taking down easy, fake points, seemingly denigrating their opponent.
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Getting a good grade in group theory means memorizing a bunch of rules about groups, remembering shit about sets from the last class, then applying it problems of a type you can predict you'll be asked about. Like, the bonus question will be about clopen (closed and open featured) topologies. Its well-trodden ground, structured, ordered, and agreed upon at the undergraduate and most of the graduate level.
So this is an example of a straw man argument.
So, it's not about the STEM areas that are highly represented by women being easier. My God, I love statistics. I could live a peaceful life running omnibus tests, monte Carlo simulations, and explaining the limitations of presence-only MaxEnt models and writing papers advocating data positive and negative informed approaches, locked in an office, getting lunch delivered. But women in math is super low, still. Which is weird, because, again, it's just following axioms, with some flavor of Applied mathematics.
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However, we see 70% female presence in some veterinary schools. A big part of this is the job is not as lucrative as it was so we're seeing fewer men being pushed to compete for it, or choosing to compete for it. Certain areas of the life Sciences is waaaay female over-represented.
Physics, for example, is pretty straightforward. It's abstract, but I've never seen an undergraduate be told to model a boundary problem inside a Dirac Sea.
So we have significant OVER REPRESENTATION of women in biomedical undergrad, professional programs, and PhD (just a squidge in the PhD numbers, but still >50%). Even medical professional, MD, doctor programs are female majority.
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E.g. it's much easier to take out a scarecrow full of straw than fight a man, but you still get seen punching someone out for a good video.